This bonus episode of The Score is an audio edition of Outside the Box, the cover story on Shawn Grant and the DT Horse program from our July 2019 issue of The Team Roping Journal. Chelsea Shaffer explain how Shawn Grant’s unconventional training methods, paired with Dean Tuftin’s breeding program, are driving the rope horse industry forward. If you get a chance, visit The Team Roping to see the images from Dean’s arena in Scottsdale—shot by Arizona and Colorado-based photographer Kari deCastro. It might just help you visualize the track Shaffer will describe later in the episode, plus it doesn’t hurt to see the horse-flesh eye-candy that makes up the DT Horse program.

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